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vote the the nays are zero. 2/3 of those voting having responded in the affirmative, the rules are suspended, the bill is passed, and without objection the motion to reconsider is laid upon the table.

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House Clerk: the house will be in order. for what purpose does the gentleman from west virginia rise? mr. rahall: mr. speaker, pursuant to house resolution 280, i move to take from the speaker's table the bill h.r. 146, with the senate amendments thereto and i have a motion at the desk. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the title of the bill. designate the senate amendments and designate the motion. the clerk: h.r. 146, an act to

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Speech By: House Clerk

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House Clerk: establish a battlefield acquisition grant program for the acquisition and protection of nationally significant battlefields and associated sites of the revolutionary war and the war of 1812, and for other purposes. senate amendments, mr. rahall of west virginia moves that the house concur in the amendments

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House Clerk: of the senate. mr. rahall: mr. speaker -- the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to house resolution 280, the motion shall be debatable for one hour equally divided an -- and controlled by the chair and ranking minority member of the committee on natural resources. the gentleman from west virginia.

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, mr. rahall, and the gentleman from washington, mr. hastings, each will control 20 minutes. the chair recognizings the gentleman from west virginia. mr. rahall: i ask unanimous consent that all members may have five legislative days to revise and extend their remarks and include extraneous material on the matter under consideration. the speaker pro tempore: without mr. hastings: mr. speaker, the house is not in order. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is correct.

Nick J. Rahall

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Nick J. Rahall: the house will be in order. will members and staff please remove their conversations off the floor. the gentleman from west virginia. mr. rahall: mr. speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. rahall: mr. speaker, the

Nick J. Rahall

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Speech By: Nick J. Rahall

Nick J. Rahall

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Nick J. Rahall: road leading us here today has been a long one. in that it has contained a few twists and turns along the way. as my colleagues are well aware, a series of procedural hurdles in both the house and senate has delayed enactment of this legislation. it would truly be a shame, however, to allow those >> the house is not in order.

Nick J. Rahall

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Nick J. Rahall: the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is correct. the house will be in order. members will please remove their conversations off the floor. the gentleman will continue. mr. rahall: thank you, mr. speaker.

Nick J. Rahall

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Nick J. Rahall: as my colleagues are aware, a series of procedural hurdles in both the house and other body has delayed enactment of this legislation. it would truly be a shame, however, to allow those difficulties to overshadow just how important this bill is. the omnibus public lands management act of 2009 is landmark legislation. it combines measures that will

Nick J. Rahall

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Nick J. Rahall: strengthen the national park system, restore our national forest, preserve our wild and scenic rivers, protect our sacred battlefields, and restore balance, restore balance to the management of our public lands. after nearly a decade during which our parks were taken for granted, and our range lands were scarred by spider web of roads and well pads, after

Nick J. Rahall

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Nick J. Rahall: nearly a decade during which responsible stewardship was abandoned, this omnibus package represents a new dawn. a new dawn for america's heritage and america's values. it will preserve pristine wilderness such as in my home state of west virginia, protect our national monuments, and conservation areas conserve our

Nick J. Rahall

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Nick J. Rahall: free flowing rivers, establish new park units, and guarantee abundant, clean water for thousands of families and more. at a time when so much of the news is bad, when so much about our future seems uncertain, enactment of this public lands bill will serve as a reminder that our nation is truly blessed and that no matter what happens,

Nick J. Rahall

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Nick J. Rahall: if we pass those blessings on to our children, our nation will survive and endure. . we've heard all the arguments. we've heard all of the arguments against it and we know that they have been proven wrong. for example, we were told that

Nick J. Rahall

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Nick J. Rahall: this package costs a great deal of money. the congressional budget office has made it clear it does not. we were told that this is a big federal land grab but members now understand that this package contains no condemn nation or taking of land of any kind. we were told this package contained a provision that would put children in jail for

Nick J. Rahall

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Nick J. Rahall: collecting fossils. we know now that only large commercial companies who take public resources and sell t for private profit will be penalized. the truth is, this package of bills will make small but meaningful improvements on the quality of life for millions of americans across our great country. the arguments made by opponents

Nick J. Rahall

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Nick J. Rahall: are petty by comparison. that is why an overwhelming and bipartisan majority of 77 members of the other body and 282 members of this house have already voted for this bill. we've all heard the saying, that which does not kill us makes us stronger. atte packing an have failed. making our commitment to --

Nick J. Rahall

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Nick J. Rahall: package have failed. making our commitment to stronger. the road leading us here has some twists and turns but today we arrive at the end. i urge my colleagues to support h.r. 146 and finally to send

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: this bill to the president for his signature and i balanc the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from washington, mr. hastings. mr. hastings: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, i use my -- i yield myself as much time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized.

Doc Hastings

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Speech By: Doc Hastings

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: mr. hastings: mr. speaker, this bill has gone through quite a process analthough this bill contains several pieces of legislation and three parts of this omnibus bil might add, the negatives in this bill and the failure to conser it under regular order of any kind have opened inclusive process outweigh any reason in my mind to vote for it.

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: by now it is well known that republicans have tried to amend this bill to restore needed house provisions, to remove egregious provisions and add protections for americans' second amendment rights. if we had been allowed to offer these amendments we might have produced leglation almost all members of the house could support.

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: however, we have been blocked at every opportunity from participating in this process. this package is largely a product of closed-door deal making. it is designed to ensure that just enough congressional districts receive something to induce support for very controversial measures that

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: underwent no public hearing. the democrat leadership likes to argue that the full house has acted on more than 70 provisions in this bill. what they don't say is that at least 100 provisions have not been considered by the full house. mr. speaker, this may look

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: familiar to some people. it's a large, large bill. and of that, only this amount has been considered by the house. it seem it's like -- seems like we haven't learned from what past experience has taught us

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: about trying to put massive bills through the house without having somewhat of an open process. every motion, procedure and action in this body has been used to deny the house republicans of any meaningful participation in this bill. the house's failure to study these 100 provisions will have serious consequences in my view

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: for an ailing economy. before the house rejected this package under suspension of the rules, our friends othe other side of the aisle argue that this bill is just what america needs in difficult times. well, it seems to me the discussion in this new congress has been around the economy and a need for american jobs and i

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: think that americans need jobs. although h.r. 146 might create a few jobs, these jobs will be mostly limited to bureaucrats putting up do not enter and no access signs all over america's public lands.

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: and the few jobs that will be far outnumber the jobs that would be killed by this bill. are our memories so short that we have forgotten the energy crisis of just last summer? and the role that it played in the economic downturn that we speernlsed in the second half of last year? evidently the democrat

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: leadership's answer to this is to close off energy-rich public lands forever. this package contains 19 provisions to block american-me energy production, locking away hundreds of millions of barrels of oil a trillions of cubic feet of natural gas.

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: more than three million acres of public land are permanently locked away from energy development. now these are public lands in a time when our economy is slowing, in a time when we need to try to get the economy going d no sector could be better i think than the energy sector,

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: especially the american energy sector yet this bill goes the opposite way in what i just cited. it is ironic. while democrat leaders accuse industry of stockpiling federal oil and gas leases, the truth is that the federal government, through the actions of the

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: congress, is stockpiling lands to block energy production. h.r. 146 has many other problems. it could, and i say could, result in a ban on the use of vehicles and other technology to patrol the u.s. border. it bans recreational access to

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: millions of acres of public nds. even worse, it denies those dependent on wheelchairs, including disabled terans, from fully enjoying public lands like everyone else. it fails to address a federal judge's decision of only last week when we could have acted on this, that overturned the bush administration regulations

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: to protect second amendment rights in parks, in wildlife refugees -- refuges. in other words, to make consistent our laws on public lands. h.r. 146 even hurts civil liberties. it could mean jail time and for

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: -- time for innocent actions by americans. yesterday we received a letter from a coalition of civil rights group, including the american civil liberties union, the competitive enterprise stitute, the national association of criminal defense lawyers and others who have grave concerns and i'll quote, the bill creates many new

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: federal crimes using language that is so broad that the provisions could cover innocent human error, end quote. these organizations also say that, and again i'm quoting, above all, we are concerned that a bill containing new

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: federal crimes finds an imprisonment and -- finds imprisonment may come to the house floor without first being marked up by the house judiciary committe end quote. mr. speaker, this house was not even marked up by the house natural resources committee. this bill was not marked up by any committee in the house.

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: this is a bill that came over, again over 1,100 pages, from the senate. so this wasn't even marked up and it has these provisions in it. i just have to ask you, mr. speaker, does this sound familiar? none of the several committees in the jurisdiction over this bill have any hearings on the troubling provisions within

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: this bill. so, mr. speaker, now that is not how the people's house sought to work. this house is the house where in no member has ever serbed that was not elected. it's- served that was not elected. it's the closest to the people. and when we have concerned, then let's debate those

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: concerns and let's have a vote. and i understand how that work we have three buttons but i generally only press two, yes and no. and whoever has the most votes prevails. but we have been denied even that basic opportunity in the people's house on this bill. the amendments i offered, for example, last night in the rules committee that were

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: rejected all on a party line that only addressed the most egregious part. we had a dis of the members of the rules committee where theyere talking about some of the provisio this they worked on were carefully crafted. in fact, the distinguished chairman mentioned that and i totally agree. i know there are provisions

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: that have been crafted. but for those provisions in the bill that have some dissention, some diffe then let's discuss that and then we can have a vote in which -- and which ever side prevails prevails. that's the wayhe people's house ought to work. but once again that process is being denied with this huge bill that is slightly larger, i

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: think, than the stimulus bill, if you want to make some sort of a comparison. but here we are again today going through that same procedure. so with that, mr. speaker, while there are three plo vision -- provisions in this bill that i've worked several congresses on, i have to say that this bill on the whole is

Jason Altmire

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Jason Altmire: not worthy of my support and i urge my colleagues to vote no. with that i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from west virginia. mr. rahall: thank you, mr. speaker. i'm happy to yield one minute to the gentleman from has helped us scraft some important language in this bill

Jason Altmire

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Speech By: Jason Altmire

Jason Altmire

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Jason Altmire: national riffle association. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. altmire: i thank the gentleman and i rise today in support of the public landed bill which includes my amendment to -- lands bill which includes my amendment to protect our nation's sportsmen. the language that i worked to include in today's bill is a hard-fought victory for sportsmen and the preservation of their access to public lands.

Jason Altmire

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Jason Altmire: within the three main sections of this bill those related to the national landscape conservation system, rivers and trails and heritage areas, protections are included to ensure sportsmen are able to hunt, fish and trap on millions of acres of public lands. these protections and my amendment are strongly supported by the national rfle association. and as an unwavering supporter of this second amendment -- un

Jason Altmire

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Jason Altmire: wavering supporter of this second amendment -- unwavering supporter of this second amendment. however, that decision does not in any way relate to my amendment and it certainly doesn't create a loophole. i agree that the right to carry issue is vitally important but it's a separate issue based on

Jason Altmire

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Jason Altmire: a court ruling that took place after this bill was finalized. i look forward to working closely with mr. hastings and mr. bishop to address this important issue through a more appropriate legislative vehicle. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. altmire: tod's action by the house protects the rights

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: of our nation's sportsmen and their ability to hunt, fish and trap on millions acres of public land. the language i worked to include makes it clear that the fundamental rights are colleagues to support this bill. mr. hastings: the n.r.a. does not endorse this bill.

Doc Hastings

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Speech By: Doc Hastings

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: the n.r.a. endorses the gentleman's amendment that he you are aed two weeks ago but they do not endorse this bill and i ask unanimous consent to insert their statement into the record. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. hastings: with that, mr. speaker, i'm pleased to yield five minutes to the gentleman from california, a new member, a new member of the resources committee.

Doc Hastings

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Doc Hastings: the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california is recognized for five minutes. >> i thank the gentleman for yielding. mr. speaker, abraham lincoln once told of a farmer who said, i ain't greedy for land, all i want's what's next to mine.

Tom McClintock

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Tom McClintock: i think the federal government is starting to resemble that farmer. h.r. 146 is a massive land grab that would literally put more land in the united states into wilderness designation than we currently have actually developed from coast-to-coast. that pretty much means no human activities other than walking through it, as long as you don't touch anything. so i have to ask the question,

Tom McClintock

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Speech By: Tom McClintock

Tom McClintock

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Tom McClintock: when is enough the federal government alrdy owns nearly 650 million acres of land. that's 30% of the entire land area of the united states. it owns 45% of my home state of california. now compare district of columbia. washington, d.c., the federal

Tom McClintock

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Tom McClintock: capitol, the home to every agency in our vast federal bureaucracy. the federal government owns only 25% othe district of columbia. the bill's estimated to cost about $10 billion, not only pay for this land grab but for all of the other bells and whistles that are attached to it. that includes congressional

Tom McClintock

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Tom McClintock: earmarks like $3.5 million to celebrate the birthday of saint augustine, florida, and a quarter million dollars to decide, to decide what we're going to do with alexander hamilton's boyhood home in the virgin islands. now, $1 billion of the $10 billion of this bill is for

Tom McClintock

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Tom McClintock: salmon population restoration on the san joaquin river in california, with the stated objective of establishing a population of at least 500 salmon. 500 salmon, $1 billion. mr. speaker, that comes to $2 million per fish. and that's without accounting for all of the costs that will

Tom McClintock

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Tom McClintock: be incurred by central valley farmers as water that's already in critically short supply that's diverted to this project. overall this bill spends $10 biion of people's earnings in real world numbers that means about $130 from an average family of four through their taxes. .

Tom McClintock

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Tom McClintock: i'm afraid this has desensitized us to figures under let's try to put this $10 billion in perspective. the national park service reports a maintenance backlog of $9 billion on the land we already own. we can't take care of the land we already have, but we'll spend $10 billion on acquiring additional land we can't take care of. this bill withdraws three

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