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Sanford D. Jr.Bishop

3:40:36 to 3:41:51( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Sanford D. Jr.Bishop

Sanford D. Jr.Bishop

3:41:38 to 3:41:51( Edit History Discussion )

Sanford D. Jr.Bishop: supply and drive up the price for american consumers. that was a tough vote for the gentleman from illinois. he voted no. he didn't think the justice department should investigate. i also

Patrick T. McHenry

3:41:51 to 3:42:03( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick T. McHenry: have a bill saying the president should file a complaint against the opec countries in the w.t.o. the bush administration in fact is now investigating collusion by opec. they still haven't filed

Patrick T. McHenry

3:41:51 to 3:44:54( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Patrick T. McHenry

Patrick T. McHenry

3:42:03 to 3:42:15( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick T. McHenry: the complaint in the w.t.o. so the bush administration has taken a step that the gentleman from illinois opposed. invest igating collusion which is gouging consumers. we need a new energy future.

Patrick T. McHenry

3:42:15 to 3:42:31( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick T. McHenry: but we don't need to allow our consumers to be price gouged on the way there. mr. wu raised another issue which the gentleman just brushed off. which is the whole issue that credible analysts

Patrick T. McHenry

3:42:31 to 3:42:42( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick T. McHenry: say because of the enron loophole, remember ken boye, he might be dead but his memory lives on at about 50 cents a gallon for the american people. one of the president's best buddies got a special

Patrick T. McHenry

3:42:42 to 3:42:54( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick T. McHenry: loophole from this republican congress deregulating derivatives and energy trading so that they could speculate. well, he's dead and enron is bankrupt. but the speculation is rampant and experts

Patrick T. McHenry

3:42:54 to 3:43:09( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick T. McHenry: tell us probably 50 cents on every gallon, 50 cents on every gallon today, you want to give immediate relief, reregulate the commodities market. you're not regulating the price of gas you're just saying

Patrick T. McHenry

3:43:09 to 3:43:20( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick T. McHenry: you can't have derivatives and morgan stanley holding more futures contracts and more fuel. just re-regulate the market. they can't self-deal. just re-regulate the market. just bring some regular

Patrick T. McHenry

3:43:20 to 3:43:34( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick T. McHenry: trading back to that market that existed before 2000. you could save tomorrow 50 cents a gallon. now you can talk about anwr. he talks about it with great certainly. i've been sitting in on debates

Patrick T. McHenry

3:43:34 to 3:43:42( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick T. McHenry: over 20 years about anwr. one well was drilled. what was there? we don't know. it was proprietary. there are estimates from a little bit to a lot of oil. but he knows exactly how much is there.

Patrick T. McHenry

3:43:42 to 3:44:03( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick T. McHenry: interesting. and how much revenue it would bring. even more interesting. since right now oil from alaska can and is being exported from the united states of america. i guess he's worried about the

Patrick T. McHenry

3:44:03 to 3:44:12( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick T. McHenry: chinese energy problem. but that's most likely where any additional supply from alaska would go. until we develop more refinery capacity which the industry refuses to do. and there are ways to

Patrick T. McHenry

3:44:12 to 3:44:25( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick T. McHenry: drive them to make that investment, but the gentleman doesn't support that legislation either which i've introduced. so we're hearing a lot of talk on that side of the aisle. because the republicans

Patrick T. McHenry

3:44:25 to 3:44:40( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick T. McHenry: are running scared because their could havers have been filled by this industry for years and they're put into power and bush was put into the white house and dick cheney was put into the

Patrick T. McHenry

3:44:40 to 3:44:54( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick T. McHenry: vice president's mansion by this industry and this industry is kind of unpopular right now so they want to pretent they it it -- pretend they want to do something. let's bring it closer in.

Peter A. DeFazio

3:44:54 to 3:45:07( Edit History Discussion )

Peter A. DeFazio: the gentleman again talked about anwr. well, right just a little way away from anwr, guess what? there's something that bill clinton leased call the naval petroleum reserve the we know there's oil

Peter A. DeFazio

3:44:54 to 3:48:16( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Peter A. DeFazio

Peter A. DeFazio

3:45:07 to 3:45:24( Edit History Discussion )

Peter A. DeFazio: under that. bill clinton leased it. h.m. bill clinton's been gone 7 1/2 years. how time flies. how many producing wells are there in the naval petroleum reserve drilled by american companies

Peter A. DeFazio

3:45:24 to 3:45:41( Edit History Discussion )

Peter A. DeFazio: who have leased that preserve? none. not one. not a single one. so, if the need is to get more production going ialaska, how about they drill the wells in the naval petroleum reserve where

Peter A. DeFazio

3:45:41 to 3:45:59( Edit History Discussion )

Peter A. DeFazio: we know there's oil as opposed to pretending there might beil in anwr and we should drill way over there and er it's also a lot further from the existing pipeline and other shipping capabilities.

Peter A. DeFazio

3:45:59 to 3:46:13( Edit History Discussion )

Peter A. DeFazio: so there's a heck of a lot of stuff, as i said earlif,er in my 45-second response, regretted i didn't have time to yield to the gentleman, he's not here now, i would have given him 30 seconds.

Peter A. DeFazio

3:46:13 to 3:46:25( Edit History Discussion )

Peter A. DeFazio: to develop out there. but the industry isn't developing it. 10,000 permits that haven't been actuated. they start talk being illinois. these federal leases aren't in illinois. i'm not aware of any

Peter A. DeFazio

3:46:25 to 3:46:44( Edit History Discussion )

Peter A. DeFazio: federal leases in illinois for oil exploration. these are off the coast where 80% of the supply is accessible through existing leases, the industry just hasn't seen fit to develop it. why

Peter A. DeFazio

3:46:44 to 3:46:58( Edit History Discussion )

Peter A. DeFazio: not? because it's working really well for them right now. record prices, they don't care about supply and they sure as heck don't want more supply to bring down the price. plain and simple .

Peter A. DeFazio

3:46:58 to 3:47:08( Edit History Discussion )

Peter A. DeFazio: they're extorting the american people. they're extorting through collusion with opec. they're extorting through speculation in the energy markets and they're extorting by with holding theirrilling

Peter A. DeFazio

3:47:08 to 3:47:21( Edit History Discussion )

Peter A. DeFazio: from leases they already have while pretending they need more. plain and simple. it's a scam. and i'm really disappointed that the gentleman is gthoing to oppose my bill later when he talks

Peter A. DeFazio

3:47:21 to 3:47:34( Edit History Discussion )

Peter A. DeFazio: about all the revenues that could be realized when right now royalty-free oil is flowing out of the gulf because of a bureaucratic error and he doesn't want to fix that problem because he thinks the oil

Peter A. DeFazio

3:47:34 to 3:47:50( Edit History Discussion )

Peter A. DeFazio: companies need the money more than my counties and schools. and we'll hear more about that later. with that i would reserve the balance of my time -- reserve the balance of time for the gentlelady.

Peter A. DeFazio

3:47:50 to 3:48:03( Edit History Discussion )

Peter A. DeFazio: the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas. mr. hall: i yield the gentleman from utah, mr. bishop, three minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from utah is recognized for

Peter A. DeFazio

3:48:03 to 3:48:16( Edit History Discussion )

Peter A. DeFazio: three minutes. mr. bishop: thank you, mr. speaker. and i appreciate the comments that have been made so far. i'm reminded by president reagan who once said there you go again and some of those statements

Patrick T. McHenry

3:48:16 to 3:48:27( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick T. McHenry: can apply here. but one statement was dead-on accurate. that what we are talking about here in this part of the discussion deals with how real people are impacted in their daily lives.

Patrick T. McHenry

3:48:27 to 3:48:39( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick T. McHenry: we no longer are talking about energy consumption as an atheirial process or whether it meets different needs, kind of a policy concept. we're talking about how people, real people, bake their food,

Patrick T. McHenry

3:48:39 to 3:48:49( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick T. McHenry: heat their homes and how they keep their jobs. for every dollar that there is an increase in oil prices and gasoline prices it simply means that jobs are lost. that revenue does not flow here.

Patrick T. McHenry

3:48:49 to 3:49:04( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick T. McHenry: social security programs are diminished and the overall quality of life is diminished. we are talking about real people and how real people are impacted. for every dollar a poor person or

Patrick T. McHenry

3:49:04 to 3:49:16( Edit History Discussion )

Patrick T. McHenry: a middle-income person has to spenden to increased energy consumption, that's -- spend on increased energy consumption, that's a luxury that they can't expend on tuna cass role. if you're parishioner

Peter A. DeFazio

3:49:16 to 3:49:27( Edit History Discussion )

Peter A. DeFazio: you can try to buy your way out of it. but for middle-income people and poor people, we're talking about how they live their lives. d we're talking about a cotry that has more energy potential

Peter A. DeFazio

3:49:27 to 3:49:42( Edit History Discussion )

Peter A. DeFazio: locked up than other nations have in their entire countries. that's the concept that is here. and yet we always come back to picky little reasons why we can't develop the source, renew

Peter A. DeFazio

3:49:42 to 3:49:54( Edit History Discussion )

Peter A. DeFazio: that source or build on that particular source paas well. we can't develop in anwr because even though the carter administration set this particular piece of property aside for energy development,

Ralph M. Hall

3:49:54 to 3:50:09( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: because it offends somebody. we can't have wind mills off the coast of massachusetts. it doesn't look right. we can't drill off the coast of florida because it might offend the tourists sw somewhere.

Ralph M. Hall

3:49:54 to 3:51:30( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Ralph M. Hall

Ralph M. Hall

3:50:09 to 3:50:22( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: we all have picky little reasons on why you can't do it and the net product is, we harm our own people because we don't have a policy that provides a positive reinforced policy, a strong

Ralph M. Hall

3:50:22 to 3:50:38( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: program that will encourage courage conservation but also encourage production of every source of resources that we have at our disposal. it has to happen and it has to happen now because we're dealing

Ralph M. Hall

3:50:38 to 3:50:51( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: with real people. we're also dealing with the security of this country. earlier on this floor they talked about an element of section 526 that was passed in an energy bill which had the

Ralph M. Hall

3:50:51 to 3:51:04( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: proposal of cutting out the needs of our military in their advancement for alternative synthetic fuels. that's one of the things we're looking at. five years ago it cost us $2 billion

Ralph M. Hall

3:51:04 to 3:51:15( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: a year for petroleum for our military. today we're locking about $12 billion a year. we cannot do that any longer. those are the issues we have to have. we have to realize that what we're talking

Ralph M. Hall

3:51:15 to 3:51:30( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: about is real people. and what we are -- and who we are hurting. can i get another 30 seconds here? mr. hall: i yield the gentleman another 30 seconds. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:51:30 to 3:51:44( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: recognized for an additional 30 seconds. mr. bishop: who we are hurting are real people and those people in the middle incomes appear those people who are on the edges of our society and those

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:51:30 to 3:55:43( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Eddie Bernice Johnson

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:51:44 to 3:51:58( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: people on fixed incomes which is about 45 million americans, those are the ones who get hurt first. and the more we talk about the philosophy of what should or should not be done and the

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:51:58 to 3:52:12( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: later we decide to take as our policy statement that we will become energy secure and energy independent and we will develop all the resources we have at our disposal, to become energy dependent,

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:52:12 to 3:52:27( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: that's when we decide to try and help people. i thank the speaker for his indulgences. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentlelady from texas. ms. johnson:

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:52:27 to 3:52:40( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: we reserve the balance. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time -- the gentlelady reserves the balance of her ce time. the gentleman from texas. mr. hall: mr.

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:52:40 to 3:52:54( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: speaker, i yield the gentleman from north carolina, mr. mchenry, three minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. hall how much time do i have, sir? the speaker pro tempore: seven

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:52:54 to 3:53:06( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: minutes before yielding. the gentleman is recognized for three minutes. mr. mchenry: thank you, mr. t speaker. i rise today to agree with the o resolution but the real substance of the debate

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:53:06 to 3:53:18( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: on the house floor today should be about gas prices. that is the substance of what wee should be talking about as a people, because i know my constituents are talnsking about it. they

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:53:18 to 3:53:29( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: commute to work each day and at the -- and they have to pay and pay and pay high gas prices every day. d and it's because this congress hadn't acted. . certainly the resolution calling for

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:53:29 to 3:53:45( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: more math and science students, that's well and good. but what we should be talk being right now is how we're going to become energy-independent as americans. how we use american resources,

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:53:45 to 3:53:57( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: whether it's natural gas, petroleum products, energy research, how are we going to g invest in those things now? in this congress, this democratss leadership has failed to act and thinkth that's

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:53:57 to 3:54:10( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: irrespoirnsible. you know, one answer that they say is conservation. that's what some on the other r side of the aisle say is the ai answer. and you know, conservation is a sign of personal virtue.

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:54:10 to 3:54:25( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: but we cannot conserve our way to energy independence. ep american energy independence. so what do we do? e i believe we have to use our technology and our innovation here in the united states

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:54:25 to 3:54:36( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: to become energy independent. we have vast resources, whether it's oil shale in the rocky mountain west, whether it's tar sands in our neighboring canada. in order to harvest oil out of oi those

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:54:36 to 3:54:47( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: areas, we must do it, though. the american people are paying close to $4 at the pumps and that's una cceptable. and i think because that, when it comes to energy, we need an american

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:54:47 to 3:55:05( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: solution, an america that relies on its own ingenuity and innovation, not beholden to b the saudi royal family. and i call on this congress to act, to stream line the regulation process so we can get new

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:55:05 to 3:55:18( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: refineries online, to open op up new areas of exploration. that's wha t we should be doing, not simply he can debating this resolution but working on real substantive issues that the american people

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:55:18 to 3:55:31( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: need and desire and my constituents in western north carolina demand h action when it comes to lowering gas prices and this congress can dhio something soabout it. but we have to open up

Eddie Bernice Johnson

3:55:31 to 3:55:43( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: new areas of exploration. we have to increase refine -- refining capacity and we have to invest in renewable energy sources that are clean, efficient and american solutions that make us self-reliant.

Ralph M. Hall

3:55:43 to 3:55:56( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: and with that i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentlelady from texas. ms. johnson: mr. speaker, may i inquire

Ralph M. Hall

3:55:43 to 4:00:04( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Ralph M. Hall

Ralph M. Hall

3:55:56 to 3:56:15( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: how much time we have left? the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady has three minutes. ms. johnson: i'd like to yield 2 1/2 minutes to mr. defazio to respond to the last presenter. the speaker pro

Ralph M. Hall

3:56:15 to 3:56:26( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: tempore: the gentleman is recognized for 2 1/2 minutes. mr. defazio: there are 36.9 billion reasons why we aren't doing more to protect consumers today, why we haven't filed complaints a gainst opec,

Ralph M. Hall

3:56:26 to 3:56:41( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: why the repubcans created loopholes in energy trading so that enron could get rich -- well, they went bankrupt, actually -- others could speculate in the market, driving gas up 50 cents

Ralph M. Hall

3:56:41 to 3:56:51( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: ace gallon. their rich buddies benefit from it. i was shocked to hear the ar gentlema n talk about needing to loosen up regulations in order to get more refinery capacity. a few years ago, george

Ralph M. Hall

3:56:51 to 3:57:07( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: bush let to offer any oil company build a refinery on a closed military base. how many takers did he get? big goose egg. zero, none. what did the head of exxonmobil say two weeks ago, we're

Ralph M. Hall

3:57:07 to 3:57:25( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: not interested in building refineries. we're doing just fine the way we are. they are restraining and they have restrained over the last decade refinery capacity in collusion to drive up

Ralph M. Hall

3:57:25 to 3:57:45( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: the price. it's yet another excuse to drive up the price. so they don't want to build refineries and give relief to the american consumers. they don't want to give the -- to stop the speculation

Ralph M. Hall

3:57:45 to 3:57:59( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: in the commodities market because big oil and big wall street are making money off it. and then they want to shift to this debate about anwr. they know exactly how much oil's there. unlike

Ralph M. Hall

3:57:59 to 3:58:12( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: anybody else in the world, except the one company that drilled the one proprietary well 25 years ago. they are the only person that knows if there is or isn't anything there. we do know under

Ralph M. Hall

3:58:12 to 3:58:25( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: the former national at the trow yum reserve set aside by a much far-sighted administration 70 years ago, there's a sea of oil underneath the international petroleum reserve and bill clinton

Ralph M. Hall

3:58:25 to 3:58:44( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: leased that to the oil industry because they were talking about the need for new places to drill. bill clinton has been gone 7 1/2 years. how many producing wells are there in the naval petroleum

Ralph M. Hall

3:58:44 to 3:59:02( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: reserve? goose egg, zero. because they're making huge profits the way it is. why should they give relief to the american consumers? because lower prices -- this is a red herring debate. d the speaker

Ralph M. Hall

3:59:02 to 3:59:15( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from tegexas. mr. hall: mr. speaker, i yield to the gentleman from north carolina, . mchenry, one minute. the speaker pro

Ralph M. Hall

3:59:15 to 3:59:29( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: teore: the gentleman is recognized mafor one minute. mr. mchenry: i thank the gentleman for yielding. i appreciate the time to respond to my colleague. and talk about the history. talk about

Ralph M. Hall

3:59:29 to 3:59:43( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: rewriting history here. instead of complaining about the problem, we're offering solutions. i'm proud i'm part of the solution. and at that solution is to hold to the oil companies accountable.

Ralph M. Hall

3:59:43 to 3:59:52( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: the gentleman is right about that. i think we need to go a step forward. we need to make sure that the refineries can get online. the reason they don't build new d refineries is that regulation

Ralph M. Hall

3:59:52 to 4:00:04( Edit History Discussion )

Ralph M. Hall: that this congress supports, the trial lawyers thas well, the extreme environmental community that fund the left and my colleagues on the left. o they're all about shutting down new

Eddie Bernice Johnson

4:00:04 to 4:00:17( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: refinery capacity. beyond that, my colleague that just spoke is not fors any exploration in this countryin whatsoever. and the american people know this, mr. speaker. the american people know

Eddie Bernice Johnson

4:00:17 to 4:00:32( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: we need more supply of energy, and that will bring prices lower. not this rewriting the history that my colleague just issued. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance

Eddie Bernice Johnson

4:00:32 to 4:00:43( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: of his time. the gentlelady from texas. ms. johnson: thank you, mr. speaker. i yield 0 seconds to the gentleman to respond. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for 20

Eddie Bernice Johnson

4:00:43 to 4:01:01( Edit History Discussion )

Eddie Bernice Johnson: seconds. mr. defazio: i thank the gentlelady. first off, it was the head of exxonmobil, the most profitable industry in the history of the world who said he has no intention of building a refinery.

4:01:01 to 4:01:14( Edit History Discussion )

he didn't mention regulations or bureaucracy. he said they're doing just fine the way they are. why build a new refinery? and other sows of oil companies have said the -- and other c.e.o.'s

4:01:14 to 4:01:22( Edit History Discussion )

of oil companies have said the same thing. they didn't want to put it on closed military bases. that's not the issue. come on, don't try that uff. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time

Susan Collins

4:01:22 to 4:01:36( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: has expired. the gentleman from texas. mr. hall: mr. speaker, i yield ie myself the balance of the time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. hall: the gentleman from oregon

Susan Collins

4:01:22 to 4:02:54( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Susan Collins

Susan Collins

4:01:36 to 4:01:48( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: is a very good speaker, knowledgeable, been here a long, long time. he said there are 1,000 reasons why we're out of energy and why we're in the situation we're in. i say maybe there's two

Susan Collins

4:01:48 to 4:02:00( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: less. you just take these two, though, out of that thousand. i don't know how many he has left. but we talk about who's furnishing fossil fuels and who's furnishing nuclear energy, who's furnishing

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