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Senate Proceeding 03-31-09 on Mar 31st, 2009 :: 1:27:45 to 1:47:45
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Joseph Lieberman

1:21:20 to 1:27:45( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Joseph Lieberman

Joseph Lieberman

1:27:29 to 1:27:46( Edit History Discussion )

Joseph Lieberman: south, mexico. additional resources provided by this amendment will improveur ability to break the grip of the cartel drug-related violence from mexico does not further encroach

Susan Collins

1:27:47 to 1:28:09( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: on america's communities and people. i thank the chair and i'm now proud to yield to the ranking member of our committee, senator collins of maine. ms. collinsms. collins: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from maine. ms. collins: mr. president, i'm pleased to join with my friend and colleague, the distinguished chairman of the homeland

Susan Collins

1:27:50 to 1:28:44( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Susan Collins

Susan Collins

1:28:10 to 1:28:31( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: security committee bipartisan amendment to provide urgently needed resources to confront a major and growing threat to our homeland security. mr. president, since the beginning of 2008, more than

Susan Collins

1:28:32 to 1:28:46( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: 7,000 people have drug-related violence in mexico, including 522 military and law enforcement officials. the mexican drug cartels have

1:28:45 to 1:28:54( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: House Clerk

1:28:47 to 1:28:58( Edit History Discussion )

House Clerk: become increasingly brazen violent, targeting police and journalists and using graphic displays of violence to

Susan Collins

1:28:55 to 1:31:29( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Susan Collins

Susan Collins

1:28:59 to 1:29:20( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: intimidate communities. the drug cartels also have been able to corrupt some local law enforcement officials who then are complicit in illegal drug production and trafficking. compounding the

Susan Collins

1:29:27 to 1:29:48( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: situation, mexico's drug cartels have in recent years gotten large numbers of firearms as well as items such as nice vision gog intercept and encrypted communications capabilities.

Susan Collins

1:29:49 to 1:30:09( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: police an in mexico are often ill-equipped to confront such well-armed and trained forces. mr. president, this growing violence poses a significant danger to the security of our country, particularly to border states. drug-related violence has

Susan Collins

1:30:10 to 1:30:32( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: already spilled over our borders. kidnappings, assaults, murders, and home invasions related to the mexican drug cartels are on the rise. particular until the arizona. tucson and phoenix have created special task forces to investigate a rash of

Susan Collins

1:30:33 to 1:30:55( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: kidnappings and home invasions directly related to these mexican drug cartels authorities estimate, as the chairman has indicated, that more than 230 cities as far way as anchorage, alaska, and boston, massachusetts, have distribution networks related to

Susan Collins

1:30:56 to 1:31:18( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: the mexican cartels. this number is up from just 100 cities three years ago. as the drugs come, north from mexico, these distribution networks use the money from their weapons ba to the traffickers in mexico. now, the united states

Susan Collins

1:31:19 to 1:31:31( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: government has invested significant resources in preventing drugsrom our country, but until ver recently, the federal government

1:31:30 to 1:31:34( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: House Clerk

1:31:32 to 1:31:34( Edit History Discussion )

House Clerk: has focused only very

Susan Collins

1:31:35 to 1:31:56( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: resources on the supply of money and weapons going south -- south to fuel the drug war. mr. president, in our own country, some local and state law enforcement do not have the capabilities to

Susan Collins

1:31:35 to 1:32:34( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Susan Collins

Susan Collins

1:31:57 to 1:32:17( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: fully counter the increasingly complex operations and sophisticated weapons of the mexican networks. the amendment that senator lieberman and i are offering would provide absolutely critical resources to supplement

Susan Collins

1:32:18 to 1:32:34( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: those efforts underway on our southwest border to gun and cash smuggling by the drug cartels in mexico. these resources represent a more substantial commitment to

1:32:35 to 1:32:39( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: House Clerk

1:32:35 to 1:32:40( Edit History Discussion )

House Clerk: address the threat than the administration announced last

Susan Collins

1:32:40 to 1:33:04( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Susan Collins

Susan Collins

1:32:41 to 1:33:02( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: week personnel from other parts of the country to the southwest border. those steps were good ones, they're needed, but they simply are not sufficient and they risk leaving other borders not fully staffed, northern borders.

Susan Collins

1:33:03 to 1:33:04( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: our amendment, a senator lieberman has indicated,

1:33:05 to 1:33:09( Edit History Discussion )

House Clerk: provides additional funding for

1:33:05 to 1:33:09( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: House Clerk

Susan Collins

1:33:10 to 1:33:31( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: customs and border protection to deploy 1,600 additional officers robbing other ports of entry. it would also provide funding for 400 new canine teams. many of these new officers and teams will be deployed to the

Susan Collins

1:33:10 to 1:34:09( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Susan Collins

Susan Collins

1:33:32 to 1:33:52( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: southwest border to conduct inspections, exit southbound traffic to mexico so that we can interdict the illegal export of weapons and cash that, again, fuel that cartel-rated violence in mexico.

Susan Collins

1:33:53 to 1:34:09( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: to investigate networks involved in smuggling the drugs, the weapons, and the cash, our amendment provides $130 million for immigration and customs enforcement to hire and

1:34:10 to 1:34:14( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: House Clerk

1:34:10 to 1:34:15( Edit History Discussion )

House Clerk: train 350 new investigators. that will help ensure that the number of border enforcement

Susan Collins

1:34:15 to 1:34:44( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Susan Collins

Susan Collins

1:34:16 to 1:34:37( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: security teams along the southwest border doubles. thes teams been highly successful in coordinating with mican officials to combat cross-border smuggling, but they are simply overwhelmed by the extent of

Susan Collins

1:34:38 to 1:34:44( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: threat. as senator lieberman has described, our amendment also provides $50 million in

1:34:45 to 1:34:49( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: House Clerk

1:34:45 to 1:34:51( Edit History Discussion )

House Clerk: additional funding to train, hire and deploy an additional

Susan Collins

1:34:50 to 1:35:24( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Susan Collins

Susan Collins

1:34:52 to 1:35:13( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: 100 investigators working on project gun runner. this will help expand investigations of armsmuggling smuggling. the amendment sets aside an additional $30 million for a highly successful cooperative program known as operation stone

Susan Collins

1:35:14 to 1:35:25( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: guagarden. this program has been a big success in my own state so i know how helpful it can be in combating this emerging and growing threat.

1:35:25 to 1:35:29( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: House Clerk

1:35:26 to 1:35:29( Edit History Discussion )

House Clerk: finally, mr. president, this amendment provides $40 million

Susan Collins

1:35:30 to 1:35:50( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: for important technology upgrades to make c.p.b. officers and border patrol agents along the border and, indeed, across the country more effective in identifying potential smugglers and in communicating with each other and with state and local law enforcement.

Susan Collins

1:35:30 to 1:35:59( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Susan Collins

Susan Collins

1:35:51 to 1:36:02( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: this will make a real difference. mr. president, what we have done is put together a carefully crafted amendment that will help

1:36:00 to 1:36:04( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: House Clerk

1:36:03 to 1:36:05( Edit History Discussion )

House Clerk: to

Susan Collins

1:36:05 to 1:36:29( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Susan Collins

Susan Collins

1:36:06 to 1:36:28( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: at the federal cooperation with state and local law enforcement to help us counter this extraordinary rise in stliels has spilled over the border from mexico that is threatening the particularly in those border states like arizona but also

Susan Collins

1:36:29 to 1:36:31( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: poses a threat to states

1:36:30 to 1:36:34( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: House Clerk

1:36:32 to 1:36:39( Edit History Discussion )

House Clerk: throughout our country because of these distribution networks

Susan Collins

1:36:35 to 1:37:30( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Susan Collins

Susan Collins

1:36:40 to 1:37:01( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: that the drug mr. president, this amendment is essential to the security of our country. the violence the cartels originate in mexico and certainly we have to be concerned about the violence in

Susan Collins

1:37:02 to 1:37:25( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: a make it country, but this affects american citizens directly. i am convinced, based on the hearings that our committee has held and the investigations that we have conducted, that this amendment is essential to countering this growing threat

Susan Collins

1:37:26 to 1:37:33( Edit History Discussion )

Susan Collins: to our homeland security. i urge support for the amendment and i'm very pleased to work with my chairman to bring this

Joseph Lieberman

1:37:34 to 1:37:57( Edit History Discussion )

Joseph Lieberman: issue before the senate. mr. lieberman: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from connectic. mr. lieberman mr. president, i want to thank my colleague from maine for her excellent statement, also for the spirit of bipartisanship that i have been her -- our relationship. i'm pleased we can bring this forward quickly.

Joseph Lieberman

1:37:35 to 1:39:29( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Joseph Lieberman

Joseph Lieberman

1:37:58 to 1:38:20( Edit History Discussion )

Joseph Lieberman: this is concerns people, particularly along our southern border, but also in cities around america. 230 cities, where the mexican drug cartels are operating, and they're all over the country.

Joseph Lieberman

1:38:21 to 1:38:43( Edit History Discussion )

Joseph Lieberman: this is a business between $16 billion and $38 billion a year. it takes $16 billion to $38 and sends it back to the drug cartel kingpins in mexico. if that was a business, it woul be one of the larger businesses in our country

Joseph Lieberman

1:38:44 to 1:39:05( Edit History Discussion )

Joseph Lieberman: we've just got to help the president of mexico have the guts to take on the drug cartels, a tremendous risk to himself and his government, to deploy his military. we're helping them through the merit initiative. this is a way to beef up our own response and our own sponsorship i thank senator collins for her statement and suppo

Joseph Lieberman

1:39:06 to 1:39:27( Edit History Discussion )

Joseph Lieberman: i do want to indicate for the record that also original cosponsors of the legislation -- of this amendment are mr. bennett, senator bennett from colorado, senator bingaman from new mexico, senator feinstein from california, senator senator kyl from arizona, senator pryor from arkansas,

Joseph Lieberman

1:39:28 to 1:39:29( Edit History Discussion )

Joseph Lieberman: senato

John Thune

1:39:30 to 1:39:34( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: John Thune

John Thune

1:39:30 to 1:39:35( Edit History Discussion )

John Thune: senator udall from new mexico. a truly bipartisan group of cosponsors.

Joseph Lieberman

1:39:35 to 1:39:50( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Joseph Lieberman

Joseph Lieberman

1:39:36 to 1:39:51( Edit History Discussion )

Joseph Lieberman: we are going to ask for call vote on this amendment. i know there's a lot of interest in it from members on both sides of the ais senate and from out the country -- and throughout the country. i hope we can vote on it as soon as possibl

Lamar Alexander

1:39:52 to 1:40:12( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: with that, i thank the chair, and i would yield back the remaing time that we've been allotted on this and s recognition, i would suggest the absence -- the presiding officer: the

Lamar Alexander

1:39:55 to 1:48:30( Edit History Discussion )
Speech By: Lamar Alexander

Lamar Alexander

1:40:13 to 1:40:33( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: senator from mr. alexander: thank you, mr. president. i was just making my entrance. mr. president, i ask unanimous consent to set aside t pending amendment. the presiding officer: is there objection? without objection. mr. alexander: mr. president, i call up amendment number 747 and ask

Lamar Alexander

1:40:34 to 1:40:55( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: consideration. the pres clerk will report the a the clerk: the senator from tennessee, mr. a alexander -- mr. alexander: mr. preside, i ask unanimous consent to dispense with f the amendment. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. alexander: thank you, mr. president. i see the senator from new hampshire is here and the senator from arizona, the assistant republican leader,

Lamar Alexander

1:40:56 to 1:41:17( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: will be here in a few minutes, i believe. senator gregg a little earlier offered an amendment which essentially would say that the debt under president obama's budget cou all the debt that has been accumulated by all the presidents since george washington. that's one way of american people and to the

Lamar Alexander

1:41:18 to 1:41:39( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: senate that the debt that is proposed by these budgets is so staggeringly high that we need to find some way to put a limit on it. i'm offering, with this amendment, another way to put some limit on it. i call it a runaway debt point of order.

Lamar Alexander

1:41:40 to 1:42:01( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: this is not a letting the horse get out of the barn. this recognizes that the horse is already out of the barn and we're trying to put a fence around him before he gets into the next county or even into the next country. what this amendment would dos create a new point of order against considering any budget

Lamar Alexander

1:42:02 to 1:42:24( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: resolution that estimates gross federal debt, our total debt, total amount of obligations exceeding 90% of gross domestic product in any year covered by the budget. put that in a little plainer english, what it means is the senate would be forced to come up with 60 votes if the public

Lamar Alexander

1:42:25 to 1:42:45( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: debt in any year grows beyond 90% of the estimated gross domestic product. the gross domestic product, of course, is what all of us produce in the united states every year. and despite the fact we're in an economic slowdown, we are a very privileged country. we'renly about 5% of the people, those of us who live in

Lamar Alexander

1:42:46 to 1:43:07( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: the united states, but year in and year out we produce about $1 out of every $4 of wealth produced in the world, 22%, 23%, 24%, 26% of all the wealth produced each year in the world is produced in the united states for distribution among primarily

Lamar Alexander

1:43:08 to 1:43:30( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: the 5% of us who live here. so we're a very privileged country. and this says that if we intend in any year to increase the debt above 90% of all of that in any year, that 60 of us have got to agree with that. now, when was the last time the united states, to try to put

Lamar Alexander

1:43:31 to 1:43:51( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: 90% into some sort of -- in some sort of perspective, when was the last time that we had an annual national -- that we had a debt, a national debt that exceed 90% of the gross domestic product? it was when we had world war ii,

Lamar Alexander

1:43:52 to 1:44:12( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: as we were coming out of world war ii. of course, during that time it didn't matter what we spent. didn't matter what we taxed. we were in a fight for our lives, and we did whatever we could think of to do, spent whatever we could think of to spend, ran up any debt we needed to to win the war. and we did win that war.

Lamar Alexander

1:44:13 to 1:44:37( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: and so right after world war ii, our debt, are our national debt, was about 90% of the annual gross domestic product of the united states. more recently, it's been about 40%. about 40%. but here is what happens now. the senator from new hampshire

Lamar Alexander

1:44:38 to 1:44:59( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: went into this to some degree. we talked about deficits. let me make a little distinction between deficits and debt. deficits are each yea addition to the debt. and we talked about the fact that that's growing up this year and next year during the recession. we understand that that is necessary to some degree.

Lamar Alexander

1:45:00 to 1:45:20( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: but then it comes back down to out 4% of gross domestic product, and it stays at about 4% of gross domestic product. that's the obama budget. that's the conrad budget, which as the budget director for president obama says is about

Lamar Alexander

1:45:21 to 1:45:42( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: 90%, 98% of the obama budget. but it's a level of deficit as compared with g.d.p. that is worse than the following countries: guatamala, the philippines, aruba, cuba, nigeria. that's the level of annual deficit. but this amendment seeks to talk about the debt.

Lamar Alexander

1:45:43 to 1:46:03( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: for example, the president's proposal is to double the debt almost in five years and to triple it in almost ten years. so we start out with about 40% of gross domestic product, but by 2014 we're at 66.5% of

Lamar Alexander

1:46:04 to 1:46:24( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: domestic product under senator conrad's budget. t president obama's ten-year budget, which is a picture of america's future in the same way grade class would be a picture of a community's future ten years the president actually presented a very honest picture of our

Lamar Alexander

1:46:25 to 1:46:46( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: future as he sees and i respect him greatly for that. i just don't like the picture that he's presented, because that picture, as i mentioned, doubles the debt in five years and nearly triples it in ten years. so we go from about 40% of gross domestic product to 71% of gross

Lamar Alexander

1:46:47 to 1:47:09( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: domestic product. under president bush -- and we hear a lot of talking about president bush. i was listening to the radio yesterday morning. they said how can you republicans -- how can you republicans be talking about debt when under president bush you ran up the debt? true. true. gives us a chance to deal with that, because he points out that

Lamar Alexander

1:47:10 to 1:47:31( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: president obama would increase the debt more not just than president bush, but than all the presidents put together going back to george washington. that's a very sobering so president bush was -- may have made some mistakes, but he was not judged on whether he caused hurricane

Lamar Alexander

1:47:32 to 1:47:52( Edit History Discussion )

Lamar Alexander: he was judged on how he reacted to it. president obama certainly didn't create the economic mess we're in. he won't be judged by that. but he will be judged and the majority parity will be kwrupblg -- majority party will be judged by how well they react to that. we don't believe that doubling the debt and tripling theebt is a way to grow the economy and

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