Senate Proceeding on May 11th, 2009 :: 0:25:05 to 0:39:00
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Jon Kyl: record at this point. let me identify them both. the first is a piece in "the washington post" todayy robert samuelson dated "tax dodge myths," he is one of columnis

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Speech By: Jon Kyl

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Jon Kyl: always has something use full to say. his column today that it would be folly for the united states to add a tax burden on american corporations like coca-cola, i.b.m., microsoft, cat pillar, companies like that who are multinational here and do business in other

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Jon Kyl: countries. it makes no sense to add a tax burden on them as if they're doing something unpatriotic by selling our prod nucts other countries -- products in other countries as well as in the u.s. the other is the chrysler power grab, it was written b -- i think the finest columnist in

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Jon Kyl: arizona, his name is bob robb. and in had column he notes the irony of the fact that the united states has been bailing out two american companies, chrysler and general the purpose of saving american jobs when in point of looks like a lot of the result of this action is going to be create jobs in other countries or transfer jobs it other

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Jon Kyl: countries and ironically with companies that maybe owned abroad like toyota but have a lot of american workers. he talks about the fact that fiat, an italian company is hard to distinguish from toyota, a japanese company, but we're apparently saving the jobs for

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Jon Kyl: fiat, but not those for toyota. but are tr interestingolumns and ask for their inclusion at tht point. the presiding officer: without objection. president. let me commend my colleague from i thought his rarks were right on the spot. when one starts looking backward instead of forward, you want to be careful what you askor

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Jon Kyl: because you just might get it and it might be more than you bargained f. there have been a lot of mistakes that the united states has made. a lot that we're not very proud of. my colleague mentioned a couple of those. there are slings in the last -- things in the last democratic administration that if officials had to do it do it over.

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Jon Kyl: there were things that the republican administration succeeded the clinton -- clinton administration undoubtedly disagreed with. but it seems to me that president bush has acquitted himself as a former president not criticizing the administration a not

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Jon Kyl: suggesting that those disagreements ould take the form of political criminal trials and if it would be very unseamly for that to occur with respect to the bush administration now that we a new obama administration. those who served in the clinton administration, those who served in the congress and knew

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Jon Kyl: something about what went on would certainly have to be prepared to defend themselves under these circumstances well and it is just an unseamly way, it seems to me, and i agree with my colleague from tennessee with the united states government to be conducting its business. so i commend my colleague, senator alexander, for statement.

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Jon Kyl: mr. president, on a related matter,he guantan detention facility and what we do about that. as everyone knows, our president fulfilled a campaign promise when he issued an executive order to close the guantanamo bay detention president bush and secretary gates wanted to close it, but they were confronted with a

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Jon Kyl: difficult question, what to do with the prisoners at the facility. president obama now faces that same dilemma. campaign rhetoric it turns out is one thing, governing is quite another. there are far more questions than answers about what the administration will do with the prisoners at guantanamo. will it hold them? where will it hold them?

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Jon Kyl: will they be sent to the united states? will they be kept in military facilities? or in federal p the united states? how will it guarantee that those who are released do not return to the battlefield? we don't have answers, of yet the administration has asked

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Jon Kyl: congress for $80 million, some of which, as is quite clearly stated in the language of the request could be used transfer these detainees to the united states. last week during the house appropriation committee's markup of the president's supplemental appropriation request, the chairman struck the $80 million

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Jon Kyl: noting that he could not defend the reque administration does not have a plan for closure. as the senate committee plans to mark up the supplemental request, i urge the committee to follow the example of the house of majority leader reid has just informed us that the senate committee would -- quote -- "fence the $80 million

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Jon Kyl: that it would release it only when there's a plan. but the plan could be almost anything. nor is thereny assurance in the statement that no prisoners could comeo the united states until october 1 that's not the kind of assurance that will get the senate to support this request. as the majority leader said, it

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Jon Kyl: is classic -- in his classically understated way, he said, "that looks l cause a little bit of debate." and, mr. president, i'm sure he is that. surely we can all agree that congress should not approve significant funding requests when we have no idea how the administration will use the funding.

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Jon Kyl: the terrorist population of guantanamo is dangerous. these are the worst of the worst, some of the most dangerous people in the world. the 241 terrorists at guantanamo include 27 members of al qaeda's leadership, 95 al qaeda operatives, nine members of the taliban's leadership, 12

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Jon Kyl: 92 foreign fighters. among their ranks are khalid sheikh mohammed, who is the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks and who in the aftermath of those attacks was planning a follow-up skyscraper. another is ali abdel aziz ali,

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Jon Kyl: who served as a key lieutenant for k.s.m., khalid sheikh mohammed, during the planning for 9/11, and he, in fact, transferred money for the united states-based operative for that plan ramsey binal shabli helped to organize the 9/11 attacks and he was a lead operative in t post-9/11 attack to hijack

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Jon Kyl: aircraft and crash them into heathrow airport. there is also a terrorist named hamali, 2002bali bombings that killed -- 2002 ba bombings that people and who financed the jakarta marriott hotel attack in 2003.

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Jon Kyl: abdel ahim nad masterminded the attack on the u.s. cole which claimed the lives of u.s. sailors in 2000. the prior administration stated that 110 of these detainees should never be release because of the danger to the united states what about those who are considered safe for release? we've been undergoing a review

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Jon Kyl: of the prisoners from the time they've been taken, and occasionally we release some because we think that no longer represent a threat the department of def in january that 61 former guantanamo detainees who we had released returned to the battlefield against the united states and allied forces in afghanistan, iraq, and elsewher

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Jon Kyl: this represents, in our criminal term and who knows how many of the rest of them may also be engaged in acts of terror? one of these ali al-hari, who was returned to his home in saudi arabia after went to yemen and he's now the

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Jon Kyl: number two in yemen's al qaeda branch. so what are we to do with these people? more than a hundred days into the ad know what the administration's plan is. according to press reports, part of the plan may be to allow one group of these from china, to have residence in the united states.

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Jon Kyl: as the senator from alabama, senator sessions, noted in letters to the attorney general, such an action appears to be prohibited under united states law. senator sessions stated in his letter to mr. holder -- and i quote -- "just four years ago, congress enacted into law a prohibition on the admission of foreign terrorists and trained militants into this country accordingly, congress is

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Jon Kyl: entitled to know authority, if any, you believe the administration has to admit into the united and/or any other detainee who participated in terrorist-related activities covered by section congress obviously must have the

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Jon Kyl: answer to this question before it considers funding that could possibly be used to bring these and other terrost detainees to the united states. and what of the rest of the terrorists? will the administration bring them to the united states to stand trial? if so, according to what rules we've bee told that the administration was shutting down the military commissions process

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Jon Kyl: set up by congress, but now it appears that that process may be brought back. guantanamo terrorists be tried in that system or will civilian courts be used? and if civilian courts, which ones? if you can't imagine these terrorists actually being tried in u.s. civilian courts, you might try to imagine a little

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Jon Kyl: harder. the most likely locations of trials are alexandria, virginia, both very high-population areas. the 200 -- excuse me, 2006 death penalty trial of zacarias moussaoui turned alexandria into a virtual encampment with heavily armed agents, rooftop

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Jon Kyl: blocked streets, identification checks, and a fleet of television satellite trucks. will these detainees -- where will these detainees be held while awaiting trial? federal prisons, which already crowd, will be overburdened with the obligation of housing terrorist suspects. zacarias mousse week, who spent 23 hours a day inside his 80-square-foot cell was

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Jon Kyl: constantly monitored and never saw other inmates. an entire unit of six cells and a common area was set aside just for him. but if not in federal prisons, perhaps military prisons? well, not so fast. former deputy secretary of defense for detainee stimpson, noted that extensive work would have to be done on existing military brigs before

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Jon Kyl: guantanamo detainees could be housed there. i quote him -- "you commingle them with military detainees so you'd have to set up aseparate wing o the facility. the structures would have to be reinforce sod that they wouldn't be vulnerable to terrorist attacks." and he concludes by saying, "and you would have to address secondary d tertiary" -- in other words, security -- "concerns with the town, the

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Jon Kyl: county and the state." mr. president, the reality of the present situation is that there's simply no better place for these terrorists than the state-of-the-art facility at guantanamoment and this is why -- at and this is why the senate went on record voting against the proposition that these detainees be brought to the united states. in fact, the senate agreed to the amendment offered by the

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Jon Kyl: senior senator from kentucky by a vote of 94-3. among the people voting in support of this resolution were the secretary of state, the secretary of ierior vice president himself while they were members of this body. so key members of the obama administration have agreed with

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Jon Kyl: the language of the amendment, which was that guantanamo detainees -- and i'm quoting now -- "should not be transferred transferred stateside into facilities in american communities and neighborhoods." if the administration has a plan, i will listen to it with approximately eight months to go before the president's arbitrary deadline, i see no

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Jon Kyl: good answers to the compliced questions of what to do with the terrorists. before the president appropriations to shut down the guantanamo facility, appropriations which could be spent to bring these terrorists to the united states, the least he can do is to provide congress with a plan that explains how

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Jon Kyl: americans will be safer having kh d sheikh mohammed and his partners as mr. president, i note the absence of a the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll.